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Beyonce is not shady like her father. Many of the shady business dealings surrounding Beyonce stems directly from Matthew. The main thing people have an issue with in regards to Beyonce is the amount of publishing she takes for records. Other than that she's doesn't do a lot of shady business.
Now Matthew....SMH. There are many producers who I've worked with directly who were signed to Matthew as producers and they were ROBBED off their publishing. There's one producer who produced a huge record on the BDAY album (i won't name the record because it would be a dead give away on my identity) but he was signed to Matthew and only got $25,000 for the track...period. Now that may seem like a lot of money but keep in mind the song went on to make way more than $25,000. Matthew took all of his publishing...dude doesn't get royalties or nothing because he signed them away to Matthew in a shady deal. Now here's a dude that's produced a hugh record for Beyonce barely gets credited for it as a ghost writer...I don't even know if his name shows up in the credits but they replaced his name with the name of a major producer and I think they either credited him as a co-producer if I'm not mistaken but dude was the one who actually created the beat from scratch.
Another instance of Matthew's griminess is the way he treated the girl group that was signed to his label. Barely gave them any money...had them locked in their contract for years (even had one of the girls miss her graduation by threatening to kick her out the group if she didn't show up to the performance). When their contract was finally up he retained the rights to ALL their songs so they basically ended up in like a 7 year deal shelved at Music World and then all the work they did with him they basically have nothing to show for it because dude kept all their music.
Why do you all think Matthew aggressively pursued signing Jennifer Hudson during the Dreamgirls era when she overshadowed his daughter?
Jennifer and her people saw the writing on the wall when Music World, Matthew's company which distributed the Dreamgirls soundtrack, failed to submit her showstopping rendition of And I Am Telling...to the Grammys. It would have been an easy win for her and this was when he had considerable clout on the board, having a major hand in many of his daughter's wins. You do the math...
One of the hidden secrets of how these executives do business is this...
have you ever wondered how in the last 10-15 years there's only a few artists to reign on top? Well, I learned working at the labels (and Matthew, Diddy & LA Reid have been notorious for this) is that labels will sign acts who have talented, and they feel may be a direct competition for their main act on the label, lock them in a contract and shelve them for years so that they don't sign to another label and compete with their breadwinner. That's why someone like a Beyonce or Rihanna can have years to reign in the industry because their labels make sure they keep the competition at bay. They'll sign acts who they have no intention of ever investing in, give them false hope and completely ignore them. This has happened not only to artists but to producers as well. There are a lot of talented acts signed to labels who don't have the "machine" behind them so they end up stuck and by the time they are let out their contract their too old or too jaded by the industry to want to even do this music thing anymore.
That's why the music industry has been dying a slow death. It's not just illegal downloads but it's that artists are waking up and seeing how these labels really operate. L.A. Reid is about to take a serious fall...karma is def starting to come for him. He wasn't forced out of Def Jam for nothing.
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Wow this all makes sense!! When ppl say there's no competition for beyonce....huh now we know why!! Rihanna beyonce have a common denominator=jayz.....smdh music industry is of the devil!! I see why ashanti is under her own label kinda supporting herself cuz in the bizness its grimey!!
I knew that ish already! Been happening since before Mo-Town. Shady as hail.
The bottom line is that if you choose to be a star in hollywood and you are uneducated about the business, YOU WILL BE SCREWED! Guys like Puff Daddy, Mathew Knowles, L.A. Reid, Jay-Z and Tommy Mottola are very well educated about the industry. Hollywood is not a 9 to 5 job. You must be well educated and have eyes in the back of your head. In hollywood, EVERYBODY IS A THIEF!
That egotistic, lying ass, cut throat bitch "KING B" don't get a pass because her "Pimp" ass step father was ruthless. Look at the shit she has ALLOWED to happen to other people with her knowledge.
sounds like he was only entitled to work for hire fee or composer...why give him publishing? Who wrote the Lyrics. This poster doesn't understand how the splits are done. #upsetwithgreedyproducers
Yes, we already know about Matt's rusty ass. So that's old news. Everybody ain't blind and stupid. This shit feels like it is coming from Bey's camp, attempting to make ppl focus on being mad with Matt, and giving Beyonce a damn pass.....AGAIN! I say to hell with that! Beyonce been a grown woman for some time now and if at any point she felt totally indifferent towards the workings of her father, Wouldn't she have said something? Done something? If we noticed from a distance things were shady, this bish was up close and personal, so she should've seen it all as well. And I believe sh awards from all the shady business dealings. She helped keep the oil on the machine. And now it's time to update that old machine. Matt didn't care who he hurt and it's obvious Bey didn't either.
Why must we always give a pass to a grown woman with insinuations that she is dumb, not to bright, slow, only virgin-like thoughts, new born baby, someone else is responsible for fuk ups,etc, etc. Like OMG...The bish is 30 yrs old ppl. Well, I don't blame it all on Matt. I blame the rest of them Knowles/Carter as well. Everybody wanted a piece of the Devil's pie. And now they've got problems.
Karma's here and she said, "Shouldn't have dished it if you couldn't take it." Peace!
Bey is as dirty as Matt. The apple didn't fall far from the tree. It's common knowledge that she not only takes too much publishing but will say she wrote a song in public when she didn't. Stealing choreography instead of paying the originator for their work is a problem. Buying designers clothes in other country and then trying to pass it off as House of Derriere in the US is another of her problems. Nothing in this woman's cubbard is clean.
Thank you 5:43 and 6:14! The Know-less camp posting on boards and trying to do damage control.
BEYONCE, COME GET YOUR RELATIVES! They aren't doing you ANY favors cause most non-stans can figure out the REAL DEAL with you!
This isn't anything people (at least CT's) didn't know. The Music industry, just like wall street, just like big pharma, just like the military industrial complex, it's all shady as hell and corrupted as fuck.
But the music industry is dying b/c people are waking up to this fuckery and thanks to internet and social media these artists are capable of creating a large fanbase and book shows based on that premise. And the very educated are starting their own record label along with contracting with a reputable distributor so they can KEEP all the music they make and the money they can earn.
And did Matthew come up with the Pillow Sham? Beyonce can get out of here with that mess.
Yeah THIS is a Smoke-Screen to make Martty-Boi an OBVIOUS TARGET for Deflection Purposes (WORD)
This is old news and i don't give a fuck what anyone says beyonce knew about it all and turned a blind eye to it because she knew it would benefit her. everything that pertains to her career she knows about but she wanted the money so she let it all slide. fuck beyonce she's a dirty lying cheating money grubbing piece of shit just like her father.
the dirty lying conniving bitch does not get a pass.
I thought J Hud's song couldn't get nominated because it had already been released? Just like Whitney's version of I Will Always Love You...if it's a remake, it can't be nominated. Can anyone confirm/dispute this?
matthew was the one who decied the fire the original memembers of dc because they wanted new management. columbia should have fired matthew a long time ago, all the lawsuits columbia had to pay on the knowles and dc from stealing was mainly because of matthew. look at how kelly lost her home and she is matthews daughter she had from an affair with the maid.
To blame Beyonce is stupid because of what and how Matthew did his shady deals to get the DC/Beyonce ahead in the game. Matthew was a cut dry dirty manager that didn't care who he hurt or cut out the business to get what he wanted for not only Beyonce but DC and that's the bottom line. To say Beyonce or DC should have stop him, he was really a ruteless kind of guy. Look at what and how he did his family throughout the years, even now. He wants to sue his daughter because she finally fired his cheating/stealing ass. He probablay was trying to sue Kelly & Michelle but maybe they came to some kind of agreement with him. I've said this before and say it now, Beyonce is nothing like her father and shouldn't be label as such. The things that happens prior to Matthew being fired by Bey was what he did as a cut throat manager and not Beyonce.
^^^^12:05 PM --Okay, I'll give the girls a pass when they were younger and Mat was one of the adults taking responsibility for the girls.--
BUT that is as far as I am willing to excuse all of the madness that continued to go on even after the girls became "adults".--Word is these girls, now grown, are about 30 yrs. old. Which means to me that they eventually were able to speak out and/or do something about BS that surrounded them. Especially Beyonce with her being a success as a solo artist that [supposedly] had gained a lot power in the industry. It's funny, because I don't remember her saying or doing anything, but bragging and boasting right along with Jay Z, about what she's got and how much money she has as well. That's not the reaction of someone upset or displeased with their situation. In fact, it displays just the opposite. I can't tell you of how many times I've heard Bey say she has control over her career and makes all the decisions concerning her career. And says it's been that way for her for awhile. So with that being said, by this grown ass woman, why should we be disappointed and upset with just Matt?--You stans will find any and every excuse to give Bey a pass. Knowing damn well in your own little piece of life, no one gives you the same kind of treatment. In the real world ppl have very little space to fuk up.
So do yourself a favor...Why don't you find someone to love up on you, in the same way you love up on Bey. I promise it will be much much more rewarding. Loving Bey that hard gets you nothing.
Oh don't give me that shit Beyonce the lying bitch knew everything that was going on and went right along with everything. please. i am so sick to death of MF's giving this bitch a pass when common sense can tell anyone that she's just as dirty low down and conniving as him. fuck this dirty bitch she aint shit and she never will be she has no talent no originality she's jealous and she SEVERALLY HATES HERSELF WITH ALL THE HATE THAT SHE CAN MUSTER. GHETTO BITCH NEEDS TO BE THROWN UNDER THE JAIL ALONG WITH HER GAY ASS MURDERING HUSBAND AND THIEF OF A FATHER!
DAMN! @ 7:29 PM!!! Bitter much??? How can YOU people hate on someone you don't know personally? I'ma pray for y'all! Y'all got TOO much hate in your blood.
personally I think she pulled a jayz move she had her dad be the "shady business manager" while she keeps her hands clean. And once she didnt need him no more she fired him. jay did the same to dame...... Dame was the bulldog and jay sat back quiet while dame created a name for himself as "bulldog CEO" and tarnishing relationships with people jay was going behind his back and making deals with theses dudes... now look at him and look at jay.... now look at mathew and look at bey....im just saying it makes sense to me
7:75
you don't know who the fuck i know so shut up and mind your fucking business.
beyonce is just as guilty as her dirty low down dead beat piece of shit for a father.
All I know is that Beyonce mama and daddy BOTH look like they are half man (yes, her mama looka like a man) and half bird. She better bask in the shine as long as she can because her future ain't looking bright...
Please..beyonce ain't doing nothing that no other artist or producer is doing..in the industry u either fuck or get fucked!
Yes Beyonce has now just started saying she's her own manager and I believe she started taking that reign of her career in the B-Day era. Also prior to that B-Day era Matthew was still her manager and it was what he wanted and how he wanted things done. Yes she was a grown ass women but not control at that point until she truly grew up and fired his ass, point blank;.com Also every one he has managed has fired his ass so that states something about his merit as a manager.
Beyonce knew every move her dad mad, she wanted to be super famous and they saw too it that she was, she knew the way the other group members were treated so she could have her star.
Beyonce is just as fucked up as her dad and now that she is married to someone who is exactly like that mofo, she ain't no damn better with her theving ass.
DON'T YALL BELEIVE THAT BEYONCE WAS NOT AWARE OF THE BACK STABBING BS HER AND HER FATHER DID AND SHE CONTINUES TO DO WITH JAYZ.
IF IT WASN'T FOR THE DEALS AND MOVES HER AND HER DAD MADE BEYONCE WOULDN'T BE SHIT.
and to this day she is still do the same shit, she had Ruben fired, WHY, because Matthew wasn't around to make sure that fucked up album went platnum and she knows it.
@ 8:31 Pm
Makes sense to me too!!
Beyonce is a evil bitch
Beyonce, Jayz, and whomever work for these bitches, TRY AGAIN WITH THIS BS STORY!!
Beyonce is just as guilty as Matthew and even moreso, stupid CUNT!
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